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Maybe Jays a liar. Wilds was also an adult who sold marijuana to high school kids, which made him vulnerable. It is possible that Jay could be lying while Jenn is still telling the truth, I'm not sure they should be put in the "same box" in that regard. #FreeAdnan, Not gonna lie. He declined to be formally interviewed for her broadcast., which is a spinoff of the radio program This American Life.. Why Did Jay Wilds' Testimony Get Adnan Syed Convicted? | True Crime Buzz Getting them in trouble for anything that they knew or that I had told them I couldnt have that. #TheJayInterview #ThankYouIntercept #FreeAdnan #PerjuryFTW, So yeah, i'm not sleeping tonight. Put this together and Jay's lies begin to make a bit more sense. Theyre gonna pin me to the fucking wall. The first passage Chaudry highlighted comes back to the question of when or if Wilds knew Syed planned to murder his ex-girlfriend. 12 lowendtheory24 6 mo. I pick him up he doesnt have any car with him. There is no mention of McDonald's or, again, the Park and Ride, in Jay's new timeline. Why did he lie? Photo: Natasha Vargas-Cooper for The Intercept, Natasha Vargas-Cooper[emailprotected]theintercept.org@natashavc. "She looked kinda purple," he said. #FreeAdnan #PerjuryFTW, An infographic is in order to keep track of Jay's lies. Jay chose not to be formally interviewed by either This American Life or by Serial host and producer, Sarah Koenig. He asked me if I had shovels, so I went inside my house and got some gardening tools. I saw her body later, in front ofof my grandmothers house where I was living. When the Serial podcast premiered in October of 2014, many listeners were shocked to find that almost the entirety of the . So that would ruin her life too. Inside Sheins controversial culture, Does Noom really work? July 1, 2016. When I ask her for her theories of what could have happened that day, she says she doesn't know, but she offers three possibilities Adnan murdering Hae doesn't even make the list. The taps on the recording, some have decided, may have been the sound of someone writing pen to paper very quickly on a hard surface, or just a little physical cue that Wilds needed to come up with the right answer fast. About a month later, police uncovered her body in a nearby park; an autopsywould later find that she was choked to death. Each week, we explore unique solutions to some of the world's biggest problems. Reporter Sarah Koenig pointed to several inconsistencies in Jay Wilds' statements to police. Here's that new story compared to the facts we know. Pusateri's police interviews and court testimony (along with Wilds' own) were instrumental in convicting Syed of the killing. Yes we dig for about 40 minutes and we dig and dig, and hes digging less and less. But their gym, lockers, parking, was down in the magnet wing. The reports of his ill health explained, How did Jung Chae-yul die? It took about 45 minutes for Adnan to finish burying Hae, according to Jay. Jay Wilds guilty plea, Anne Benaroya, Elizabeth Julian and playing videos in court p34 Now I dont wanna tell the people at Cathys that this guy Im with just killed his girlfriend and the cops just called because then they would all be a part of this fucked up thing. COMING NEXT: PART 2, Jays theory on the anonymous caller, why he agreed to testify in the states case against Adnan, and how Serial showed up at his front door. They had to chase me around before they could corner me to talk to me, and there came a point where I was just sick of talking to them. No. He said, Im gonna drive back down there [to the grave]. Wilds also shares a follow-up email. "If Jay gets pulled over and you're in a car with him and he's dirty or he feels like there's a chance that he's going to go to jail, he's going to try to dump every responsibility for anything onto you," Jay's close friend Christopher Lee Baskerville claimed. This is the first part in a multipart interview. Ooh look, the second car disappeared! Were you involved?" He said no.. After all, Jay did know where Hae's car was, and while Adnan didn't have much reason to kill Hae, Jay had even less reason to kill her. Syed was previously sentenced to life in prison. pic.twitter.com/RHnkXYzRXJ. Though Wilds didnt participate in Serial, he did conduct a .css-16acfp5{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness:0.125rem;text-decoration-color:#d2232e;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:inherit;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}.css-16acfp5:hover{color:#000;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;background-color:yellow;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}three-part interview with The Intercepts Natasha Vargas-Cooper, and attorney Rabia Chaudry (also Syeds childhood friend) launched the Undisclosed podcast, both of which add layers to the mystery enshrouding Wilds testimony. But in terms of whether Adnan should be in jail right now, the question is whether his guilt is beyond a reasonable doubt. Like, hes not in a car or anything. "I said before that the prosecution's case was dead. He had this very detailed story of pulling into Best Buy; Adnan is wearing these red gloves. It all revolves around Jay. By submitting your email, you agree to our, Serial revisited: Jay's interview shreds the case against AdnanSyed, I don't think Jay's lies prove Adnan's innocence. Defendant: Adnan Syed Why is this story different from what you originally told the police? One person who missed college because of Jay was Adnan Syed. Syed could be granted another trial, though, which could pull Wilds back into the spotlight. 9:41 PM EST, Tue December 30, 2014. I didnt know that he planned to murder her that day. Jay Wilds, Serial Podcast Witness, Breaks His Silence: Graphic Details My theory: Jay wanted Brown's motorbike. Mr S Found body in Leakin Park p111, Defense motion for a new trial p1 Dorseys sentencing argument (Adnans new lawyer) p13 Jay suggested going to the mall to find a present for Stephanie, but Adnan said he had to "go do something," and told Jay to drop him at school, letting Jay borrow his car and phone. I was also around a bunch of people earlier the day [at Cathys], and I didnt want them to get fucked up with homicide.. I know it didnt happen anywhere other than my grandmothers house. Why I believe Jay Wilds : r/serialpodcast - Reddit The way Wilds tells it, Syed pressured him to help dispose of Lee's body. You cant start drawing conclusions like that. I only smoked with him two or three times. It was the great failing of Serial. In HBOsThe Case Against Adnan Syed, Rabia Chaudry, a longtime friend of Adnan and host of theUndisclosedpodcast, talked about the impact of Jays testimony: Jay is the center of gravity in this case. There was never a real friendship. Adnan took his own car, and Jay got home another way. The surprising truth, Broker: the baby box drama movies ending, explained, Colleen Hoovers It Starts with Us: the sequels ending, explained, Why is SHEIN so cheap? It's guilt that has to be proven. Before you would just go down there for drafting, shop, and everyone would co-mingle, and all the students interacted. Then there's the matter of where Wilds saw Lee's dead body for the first time. So that would ruin her life too. Your effort and contribution in providing this feedback is much So, Jay is now saying that what he alleged at the second trial -- Adnan was with Hae's car and he showed Jay her body at Best Buy -- didn't happen. Hae was dead before she got to my house. And then I would only give them information pertaining to my interaction with someone or where I was. "Im coming at this as someone who knew Adnan since he was young," she says. She looked kinda purple, blue, her legs were tucked behind her, she had stockings on, none of her clothes were removed, nothing like that. In fact he had a meeting with them for weeks. It wasnt until they made it clear they werent interested in my procurement of pot that I began to open up any. Leesex-boyfriend, Adnan Syed, 17, became the primary suspectin her homicide after an anonymous caller told the police to investigate him. Adnan and Jay seemed to be good enough friends to one another and seemed to spend a good amount of time together. The Jay Wilds Problem: A Thought Experiment : r/serialpodcast - Reddit I was also running [drug] operations from my grandmothers house. I believe she had a job also. Serial Podcast - Episode 8: The Deal With Jay | Genius Young Lee Haes brother p4 She's trying to free a loved one from serving a life sentence for a murder she believes, firmly, that he didn't commit. I dont feel comfortable drawing conclusions like that. Judge Wanda Heards comments p15. And I found that to be a bit of a slap in the face. "Anything that's going to make him innocent doesn't involve me. But his manager was his mom. The details of his story changed on each telling. And the burden of proof for a crime like this is extraordinarily high: beyond a reasonable doubt. Jay says: Adnan buried the body at midnight. Even to Serial, the podcast that detailed nearly every part of Syed's case, Wild remained off the record to provide background information, according to Rolling Stone. We get into his car, and he drives up around the corner to Haes car. A detective testifies Jay told him he first saw Hae's body on Franklintown Road. With this interview, Jay has now burned the corpse.". I told [Adnan] that I wouldnt touch her car, or any of her possessions, and I say, Fuck it. I dont think it meant that much to her. We were in the car together during last periodhe was ditching the last period. There are also a few incoming calls at this point, but unfortunately, the records don't show us who they came from. We drive over toCathys house to smoke. From the statements Wilds made in 2014 with The Intercept, it seems unlikely he would do so. "It just makes me feel like, what else is he capable of from the situation that we've been through?" Episode 2 ends with Horton placing a call to talk to Wilds about what happened back in 1999. He calls me and says Im outside, so I come outside to talk to himand followed him to a different car, not his. Jay says: It wasnt just like I was selling a nickel bag here and there. I knew him because I knew Muslims in the community from playing basketball at the mosque. But she's also a family friend of the Syeds, and she brought the case to Koenig's attention. It went national, but it was produced in Baltimore. Ultimately, Wilds said he didn't feel he had anything to add to Koenig's investigation into Adnan Syed 's guilt or innocence. But that testimony shifting and shot through with holes as it is is all the prosecution had. Jay testified at the second trial that he and Adnan actually went to the mall together, and that Jay dropped Adnan off at school afterward, around 1 p.m. Adnan's last period Psychology teacher made a note that Adnan arrived to class late, at 1:27 p.m. Adnan always claimed he never went to the mall with Jay. He feared the police. Two incoming calls (we can't be sure who they were from) originated from the park at 7:09 p.m. and 7:16 p.m., suggesting whoever had Adnan's cell phone was, in fact, there around that time. Theres nothing thats gonna change the fact that this guy drove up in front of my grandmothers house, popped the trunk, and had his dead girlfriend in the trunk. He says, OK, follow me halfway back down the hill [towards the grave site], so he doesnt have to walk all the way back up the hill to get back to me in his car. Will we start over?' Your motion for mistrial is granted" - Judge Quarles Trial 2 January 21 to February 25 2000 Defendant: Adnan Syed Urick did not let him walk into that interview blind. Jay Wilds, Maryland's key (and only) witness at Adnan Syed's 2000 trial for murdering Hae Min Lee which was chronicled on the hotly debated Serial podcast, which launched in October 2014 and completed its 12-episode run earlier this month has consented to a single interview (with The Intercept) in an attempt to tell his side of the story. "Jay is the center of gravity in this case. And they wouldnt stop interviewing me or questioning me, he said of the police, in part one of the interview. Something definite in both media arguments is Wilds's change in story. I went to concerts, like anything from Wu-Tang to Warped Tour. Jay is now saying at no point was he shown the body at Best Buy, that that never happened. Her ex-boyfriend and classmate, Adnan Syed, was tried and convicted in 2000. Now he's given us a whole new timeline of the supposed events of that day. Wilds looms large in Sarah Koenig and Julie Snyders reporting about the trial. We know: At trial, Jay says they both buried Hae.Jay testifies that he both helped dig the hole in Leakin Park and helped bury the body. I wasnt fully cooperating, so if they said, Well, we have on phone records that you talked to Jenn. Id say, Nope, I didnt talk to Jenn. Until Jenn told me that she talked with the cops and that it was ok if I did too. They did not tell the defense that someone got an actual cash reward that was handed to them by a detective on the case. Your culture and entertainment cheat-sheet. When did he first talk to you about hurting her? He wouldve gone to jail for murder!". Where Is Jay Wilds From 'Serial' Now? He Last Spoke Out - Romper Wilds originally told police that he saw Lees body in the parking lot of a Best Buy near the high school. People had lives and were trying to get into college and stuff like that. She pointed to several apparent discrepancies on Twitter. The prosecutors ask the jury to believe him anyway. We know: At trial, Jay said he went shopping with Adnan. #FreeAdnan #Serial #LyingMoFo! But she seemed to be more mature, like she was two, three, four years older than us. But nor was there good reason to disbelieve Jay. Support our mission and help keep Vox free for all by making a financial contribution to Vox today. He seemed a little bit more uptight than the. Sergeant Kevin Forrester BPD homicide sergeant p56 It was just at the end of my junior year, so about 16. Adnan is away for life because the state used Jay's testimony to show premeditation he said Adnan told him he was going to kill Hae before he did it. Wherever her car was at the time I picked him up from Best Buy, it probably stayed there until he picked me up later that evening. Now [Jay] is saying it wasnt 7pm. When we were digging the hole, its not like Haes body was just lying next to us. What the Undisclosed pod offers up for an explanation is that because Wilds himself came under investigation, he could not recover the money. I made him smoke one time, he got a little high, got a little weird. Shes a high school girl, Oh, hes cute, Oh, whateverthings fizzleout. Im fucking done. And Adnans like, Oh, well, youre not going to help me move her are you? And Im like No, Im not gonna help you move her. He says, Ok, well, Im gonna need you to drive back to her car., Somewhere up around a corner up a hill, parked in a strange neighborhood. "I feel like [Koenig] created an evil archetype of me and sensationalized my motives. The internet is thick with lists of Jay's lies (here's one, for instance). Exclusive: Jay, Key Witness from 'Serial' Tells His Story for First How old were you when you first met Adnan Syed? When Woodlawn put in the magnet thing, they took out all the vocational classes. Hae. Wilds's testimony played a giant part in convicting Syed of murdering his high school girlfriend, Hae Min Lee in 1999. He had to give hair and blood samples. Syed's case has been publicized in the podcast Serial, as well as the HBO true crime documentary The Case Against Adnan Syed. Cathy has people over when we get there. A Warner Bros. Between 3 p.m. and 4 p.m., there are outgoing calls made to Jay's friend Jenn, Adnan's friend Nisha, and two other friends (Phil and Patrick). A detailed investigation into the weight loss app, Is SHEIN bad? It helped fan the flames of this story that people had already moved on from.. One big theory being floated around is that Wilds was the anonymous tipster who called Detective Massey and told police to focus on the ex-boyfriend. He also doesn't mention looking to buy weed in Forest Park, which he testified to doing after ditching the car, or dropping Adnan at track practice, which Adnan claimed to have attended (although his coach wasn't able to confirm). Attorneys for the State: Kevin Urick and Kathleen C Murphy, Judge:William Quarles, Associate Judge for Baltimore City Circuit Court. But, like I said, I dont know how to come up with this story about how Adnan did it, why he did it, what he was thinking, how he was thinking, and why he was thinking that. Courts not in session, Detective Gregory MacGillivary BPD homicide detective, Judge Heard instructions to the jury p23. We know: At trial, Jay and Jenn both said he went to her house that afternoon. Their accounts depart when Wilds says Syed showed him the body in the trunk of the car, and then Syed enlisted Wilds to bury Lee. But because of the specifics Wilds included in his testimony the Best Buy location that supposedly matches with call logs, strangling, the whereabouts of Lees car there wasnt much doubt Wilds was somehow involved, even if just peripherally. One such person was Jennifer Pusateri, who had a vital interaction with Syed and alleged accomplice Jay Wilds on Jan. 13, 1999, the night Lee, a high school student in Baltimore, was murdered. This carefully planned out timeline with all the phone records is wrecked.". Thats all it takes to support the journalism you rely on. Miller thinks his appeal has a real chance. pic.twitter.com/QhE5vAxdtP. Got called an Oreo. (Although he could have used a different phone.). This is where it was produced. By signing up, I agree to receive emails from The Intercept and to the Privacy Policy and Terms of Use. Jay suggested going to the mall to find a present for Stephanie, but Adnan said he had to "go do something," and told Jay to drop him at school, letting Jay borrow his car and phone. But they're comprehensible, even familiar. I worked a lot. Because Pusateris testimony corroborated Wilds (and also changed over time), many listeners came to believe that Pusateri also knew more (or less?) And then I would only give them information pertaining to my interaction with someone or where I was. Never really a big group of friends. Jay is involved. Syed was actually convicted in February 2000. He has only given one interview since Syed's conviction. I might have sat next to him in a class, and joked or something. Officer Scott Adcock County PD officer who responded to initial call on January 13 p37 Haes car could have been in the parking lot, but I didnt know what it looked like so I dont remember. Baltimore police were already focusing their investigation on Syed after an anonymous tip told them to look at Lees ex. She got a new boyfriend? And he didnt know how to deal with that. "He'll trade places with you in a heartbeat," he continued. When Adnan loaned you his car onJan. 13, 1999, did he tell you it was because he planned on murdering Hae? ), In the new interview, Wilds explained his changing accounts of what happened as attempts to spare friends and family -- namely, the grandmother he lived with -- from any involvement in the case. Rabia Chaudry is a lawyer and national security fellow at the New America Foundation. I had cops show up and harass me before at my house. Colin Miller, a law professor who writes at the EvidenceProf Blog, is unsparing in his evaluation of what this does to the state's case. I rode BMX freestyle. I dont know if she said something he couldnt handle, and he went off the edge or if he had been seriously speculating about it. Attorney for the Defendant: Maria Cristina Gutierrez. Jay's actions here may not be right. Jay Wilds, testimony resumes p122, Discussion: Mr Ss indecent exposure conviction p2 Syeds trial, and Jays testimony, became the focus of a This American Life spinoff series, the 12-part podcast Serial, broadcast in the fall of this year. I don't know what happened, what occurred between them that day," he said of Lee's death. At trial, he said Adnan killed Hae in the parking lot of Best Buy, and then he also said he helped Adnan bury her in Leakin Park. Read part one of the interview here, and part two here. Wilds has stayed private since the 2014 interview. Matt Tinoco provided research for this interview. The other thing to understand is something about the culture of Baltimorethis is where the Stop Snitching video comes from. In September, a legal team formed to represent Wilds and also quickly worked out a plea deal to testify against Syed. She's a high school girl,' Oh, Jay Wilds's cute, Oh, whatever' -- things fizzle out. The Dark Brandonmeme and why the Biden campaign has embraced it explained, Take a mental break with the newest Vox crossword, Sign up for the Stephanie [Jays girlfriend] came to me and said Adnan is pretty cool, plus he wanted to buy some weed. There is no call to Jay on Adnan's phone log in the evening. Jay is either the killer or knows the killer. PERJURY ABOUNDS! Jay Wilds' New Interview About 'Serial' Is So Completely Frustrating. Jay says: He didn't help bury the body. Unmasking the unethical business practices of the fashion brand, Is Telekinesis real? (Again. and 4p.m. Parts one and two were published Monday and Tuesday. He did not go to prison, though. Jay From "Serial" Gave An Interview That Might Actually Help Adnan Syed Jay Wilds, the key witness in Adnan Syed's trial, gave his first interview in years, and now Rabia Chaudry, the woman who introduced Sarah Koenig to Syed, claims it proves Wilds has been lying the whole time. Consider what the world of media would look like without The Intercept. There are files with all the events from each day, but beware, those files are often very large and may take a little time to open or download. Wilds also said he has been misunderstood because of Serial. At this point, Jay apparently drove himself and Adnan over to Cathy's to smoke. Wilds told Vargas-Cooper that he didn't trust the police at the time. When police were investigating Lees murder, CrimeStoppers offered a $3,075 reward for any information that would lead to the arrest of the murderer. The part about Cathy's apartment is pretty undisputed, though -- Jay, Cathy and Adnan all acknowledge being there that evening. I stonewalled them that way. Jay Wilds: I think that was Jay Wilds first real girlfriend, and I We know: At trial, lot more happened before Cathy's.Before going over to Cathy's, Jay said that he and Adnan dropped Hae's car at the I-70 Park and Ride. With Jay, it was more so kinda like -- in my mind I was like, "maybe the police are putting him up to this." Jenn Pusateri I said, "what was your involvement? The problem is they completely undermine the state's case against Adnan. Though Wilds testimony seemed to have been trusted implicitly by Syeds jury, the Serial podcast shining a light on the key details of Wilds claims led many listeners to believe Wilds was not exactly truthful and that even the slightest bit of questioning could have unraveled his story. From the way he carried himself, at least, it looked like he had never lost anything before. Evidence from the Adnan Syed case | Previously undisclosed.wikispaces.com. Take my car, take my cellphone. Jay From 'Serial': Sarah Koenig "Demonized" Me Jay told the story that convicted Adnan. And he wasn't talking. If Wilds did receive the reward money for being the tipster, but that information wasnt disclosed, that would have immediately led to a new trial. Part of HuffPost Entertainment. And she's right. "There was never a real friendship," Wilds told The Intercept. I dont think thats wrong, its high school, you know. In Serial you are depicted as a petty weed dealer. Jay's interview also undermines very specific charges. But they don't need to. If that paragraph doesn't make much sense to you, then you probably haven't been following Serial, the wildly successful podcast in which Sarah Koenig reopens and reinvestigates the 1999 Baltimore murder case that put Adnan, who was then 17 years old, behind bars for the rest of his life. And hes like, Ive gotta put her car somewhere. So I follow him around for a few minutes, and he just picks a place at random behind some row houses, leaves her car, gets into his car, takes me home. And while the story he told the Intercept's Natasha Vargas-Cooper is more believable than the one he told the police or Adnan Syed's juries, it also makes Jay, as a witness, less credible and thus it makes the case against Adnan much weaker. Football paid for everything at the school. Adnan's phone log also documents a couple of calls to Jenn's house, at 12:07 p.m. and 12:41 p.m., which make sense if Jay had the phone and wanted to see who was home. Im being manipulated into whats being done right now.. Assessing the truth behind the existence of the mind power, What happened to Kmart? If you are searching for something said by (or to) a specific witness said, you could try the smaller files we made for each witness. Motion denied p6 The star witness at Syeds trial was Jay Wilds, a former classmate who testified that he helpedSyed dispose of Lees body. I had friends but the groups were small.
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